{"id":86027,"date":"2025-11-10T09:01:16","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T09:01:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=86027"},"modified":"2025-11-10T09:01:16","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T09:01:16","slug":"dns-provider-quad9-sees-piracy-blocking-orders-as-existential-threat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=86027","title":{"rendered":"DNS Provider Quad9 Sees Piracy Blocking Orders as \u201cExistential Threat\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/quad9-1.jpg\" alt=\"quad9\" width=\"300\" height=\"217\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-212328\">In May 2024, the Paris Judicial Court ordered <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cloudflare.com\/learning\/dns\/dns-cache-poisoning\/\">Google, Cloudflare, and Cisco<\/a> to block access to several pirate sports streaming sites. <\/p>\n<p>The move was a major enforcement escalation by French rightsholders, but in hindsight it was only the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>In the months that followed, additional rightsholders such as DAZN and beIN joined in on the action with similar requests, while more DNS providers were added as targets, <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/french-piracy-blocking-order-goes-global-dns-service-quad9-vows-to-fight-241212\/\">including Quad9 and Vercel<\/a>. This pitted notably smaller players against these billion-dollar companies in court.<\/p>\n<h2>An Existential Threat<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quad9.net\/\">Quad9<\/a> was no stranger to site blocking requests, having previously dealt with a similar legal battle in Germany. That said, for the small Swiss non-profit organization, these proceedings are more than a legal disagreement. They present an existential threat. <\/p>\n<p>For billion-dollar tech companies Google and Cloudflare, dealing with these legal challenges is a nuisance, but they have the means to fight back. In a <a href=\"https:\/\/quad9.net\/news\/blog\/when-enforcing-copyright-starts-breaking-the-internets-plumbing\/\">recent blog post<\/a>, Quad9 explains that its foundation doesn\u2019t have this luxury. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor large commercial players such as Google, Cloudflare, or Cisco, these costs \u2014 legal, lobbying, or engineering \u2014 are absorbed as part of their business overhead.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor small, mission-driven nonprofits like Quad9, they represent an existential threat,\u201d the DNS provider adds. <\/p>\n<p>Ideally Quad9 would like to defend itself in these blocking cases, as Google and Cloudflare have done. However, since it doesn\u2019t have the financial resources to do so, it <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/wrong-logo-no-piracy-proof-french-court-rejects-dns-piracy-blocking-bids-250515\/\">chose not to make an appearance<\/a> in one of the recent site-blocking cases. <\/p>\n<h2>Breaking the Internet\u2019s Plumbing<\/h2>\n<p>Quad9 argues that copyright holders are increasingly trying to hold neutral intermediaries liable for piracy. Instead of going after the infringers directly, ISPs, VPNs, and DNS providers have to take on the enforcement burden.<\/p>\n<p>This is particularly problematic for smaller operations that, according to Quad9, simply don\u2019t have the means to do so indefinitely. Not only that, by going after DNS providers, these orders also directly affect key internet infrastructure providers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cInstead of targeting the platforms that profit from infringement, IP owners are increasingly going after the neutral infrastructure providers that simply make the internet work,\u201d Quad9 writes.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><center><em>Breaking the Internet\u2019s Plumbing<\/em><\/center><br \/><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/plumbing.png\" alt=\"plumbing\" width=\"600\" height=\"456\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-273945\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/plumbing.png 1066w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/plumbing-300x228.png 300w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/plumbing-600x456.png 600w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/plumbing-150x114.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>In response to the French blocking efforts, Cisco decided to leave France, so the effects of these measures are already being felt. <\/p>\n<p>Other companies, such as Google and Cloudflare, have the technical means to restrict the blockades to France, but not all providers can do so easily. That includes Quad9, which had no other choice than to apply the French blocking request worldwide.<\/p>\n<h2>Big Questions<\/h2>\n<p>In France, the courts have clearly decided that these blocking orders are warranted, and while some are under appeal, there\u2019s no indication that they will be reversed anytime soon. That said, Quad9 believes that a broader discussion is warranted, and it poses several questions that go to the heart of how the internet should function.<\/p>\n<p>In its blog post, the foundation asks, among other things:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cShould neutral, technical infrastructure be held responsible for the actions of others?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cHow far should courts reach across jurisdictions to impose national laws on global networks?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCan small nonprofits survive under legal obligations designed for global corporations?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat happens to privacy and resiliency when only a handful of corporations can afford to comply?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt what point does legal compliance become de facto censorship?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These are not just rhetorical questions for the Swiss non-profit. After fighting and winning a multi-year, costly legal battle <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/dns-resolver-quad9-wins-pirate-site-blocking-appeal-against-sony-231208\/\">against Sony in Germany<\/a>, Quad9\u2019s \u201cexistential threat\u201d has reemerged in France.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, Quad9 warns that these blocking battles may lead to a less open, less private, and more centralized internet, leaving the \u201cplumbing\u201d in the hands of a few corporate giants who can afford to pay the legal bills.<\/p>\n<p>From: <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/\">TF<\/a>, for the latest news on copyright battles, piracy and more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpematico_credit\"><small>Powered by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wpematico.com\" target=\"_blank\">WPeMatico<\/a><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In May 2024, the Paris Judicial Court ordered Google, Cloudflare, and Cisco to block access to several pirate sports streaming sites. The move was a major enforcement escalation by French rightsholders, but in hindsight it was only the beginning. In the months that followed, additional rightsholders such as DAZN and beIN joined in on the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":86028,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[308],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-86027","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-torrent"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/86027","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=86027"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/86027\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/86028"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=86027"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=86027"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=86027"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}