{"id":85646,"date":"2025-10-17T09:00:35","date_gmt":"2025-10-17T09:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=85646"},"modified":"2025-10-17T09:00:35","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T09:00:35","slug":"record-labels-fire-back-at-cox-in-1b-supreme-court-piracy-case-cite-termination-hypocrisy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=85646","title":{"rendered":"Record Labels Fire Back at Cox in $1B Supreme Court Piracy Case, Cite Termination \u2018Hypocrisy\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/supremecourt.jpg\" alt=\"supremecourt\" width=\"300\" height=\"248\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-257709\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/supremecourt.jpg 1516w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/supremecourt-300x248.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\">The Supreme Court case between several major record labels and Cox Communications is a landmark legal battle.<\/p>\n<p>The outcome will determine how Internet providers should deal with pirating subscribers on their networks.<\/p>\n<p>Should alleged pirates be disconnected from the Internet after repeated third-party allegations of copyright infringement? Or does that go too far?<\/p>\n<p>In its <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/cox-brief-asks-supreme-court-to-reverse-draconian-piracy-liability-ruling\/\">opening brief<\/a>, Cox argued that the company should not be held liable for contributory copyright infringement because it failed to terminate subscribers after multiple warnings. The <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/u-s-govt-tech-giants-unite-against-isp-piracy-liability-ruling-at-supreme-court\/\">U.S. Government and various tech companies<\/a> support Cox\u2019s position.<\/p>\n<h2>Record Labels Fire Back in Supreme Court<\/h2>\n<p>Yesterday, the major record labels, including Sony and Universal Music, countered these arguments in their response brief. Describing Cox as a company that willingly prioritized profits over piracy, they argued that the <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/cox-is-liable-for-pirating-subscribers-hit-with-1-billion-damages-verdict-191220\/\">$1 billion verdict<\/a> against the ISP should be upheld.<\/p>\n<p>Citing internal communication records handed over by Cox during discovery, the labels said that Cox viewed potential terminations through a commercial lens.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCox made a deliberate and egregious decision to elevate its own profits over compliance with the law, supplying the means for massive copyright infringement to specific users that it knew were \u2018habitual offenders\u2019 because \u2018we want to hold on to every subscriber we can\u2019,\u201d the labels said. <\/p>\n<p>To illustrate this stance, the labels quoted comments made by a Cox manager. He was responsible for the company\u2019s compliance with the DMCA but told his team, \u201cF the dmca!!!\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><center><em>F the dmca!!!<\/em><\/center><br \/><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f-the-dmca1.jpg\" alt=\"f the dmca\" width=\"600\" height=\"245\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-273232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f-the-dmca1.jpg 1355w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/f-the-dmca1-300x122.jpg 300w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/f-the-dmca1-600x245.jpg 600w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/f-the-dmca1-150x61.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>The labels claim that it was this context that eventually led the Virginia jury to hold the company liable, and they see no reason why the Supreme Court should reverse the decision. <\/p>\n<h2>Termination Hypocrisy<\/h2>\n<p>A key issue highlighted by Cox and the U.S. Government is the risk of innocent subscribers having their Internet access terminated over third-party piracy allegations. <\/p>\n<p>The record labels don\u2019t dispute the importance of Internet connectivity, but after disconnecting hundreds of thousands of subscribers who didn\u2019t pay their bills, they claim that Cox\u2019s stance is hypocritical.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhile Cox waxes poetic about the centrality of internet access to modern life, it neglects to mention that it had no qualms about terminating 619,711 subscribers for nonpayment over the same period that it terminated just 32 for serial copyright abuse. And while Cox stokes fears of innocent grandmothers and hospitals being tossed off the internet for someone else\u2019s infringement, Cox put on zero evidence that any subscriber here fit that bill.\u201d <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><center><em>Waxing Poetics about Grandmothers<\/em><\/center><br \/><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/waxing-poetics.jpg\" alt=\"waxing poetics\" width=\"600\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-273229\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/waxing-poetics.jpg 1379w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/waxing-poetics-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/waxing-poetics-600x300.jpg 600w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/waxing-poetics-150x75.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/center><\/p>\n<h2>Contributory Liability is \u2018Bedrock Law\u2019 <\/h2>\n<p>A key question before the Supreme Court is whether ISPs can be held contributorily liable. According to Cox and the U.S. government, they should not if there is no culpable action that facilitates copyright infringement. <\/p>\n<p>According to the labels, Cox\u2019s decision to ignore piracy and prioritize profits qualifies as culpable conduct. <\/p>\n<p>The music companies note that contributory infringement is bedrock law that dates back more than a century. It has previously been applied to cases where parties supplied products that were used for copyright infringement. <\/p>\n<p>They cite a 1912 case (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Henry_v._A.B._Dick_Co.\">Henry v. A.B. Dick Co.<\/a>) where the Supreme Court held that selling mimeograph ink to a known infringer \u201cwith the expectation that it would be used\u201d to infringe was enough for liability. The labels argue that Cox continuing to provide internet service to known \u201chabitual offenders\u201d is the modern equivalent.<\/p>\n<h2>DMCA\u2019s Safe Harbor Presupposes Liability <\/h2>\n<p>One of the labels\u2019 critical counterarguments is that the very existence of the DMCA\u2019s safe harbor for ISPs suggests that Congress understood that these services could be held liable for their subscribers\u2019 infringements.<\/p>\n<p>The labels note that the U.S. government\u2019s concern, that ISPs would be more inclined to avoid liability and terminate customers without much scrutiny, could also be turned on its head. <\/p>\n<p>While terminations of alleged pirates are clearly seen as a problem by Cox and the U.S., disconnecting subscribers that refuse to pay their bills isn\u2019t mentioned as a concern.  <\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll of that makes the government\u2019s professed concern about not \u2018giv[ing] ISPs a powerful incentive to err on the side of termination,\u2019 mystifying. Cox itself had no hesitation about erring on the side of termination when it came to late-paying customers. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd Congress acted to curb the true problematic incentive\u2014namely, that ISPs\u2019 profit motives will leave them with \u2018a powerful incentive to err on the side\u2019 of retaining known infringers as long as they pay their monthly bills,\u201d the labels added. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><center><em>A Nullity<\/em><\/center><br \/><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/nullity.jpg\" alt=\"nullity\" width=\"600\" height=\"266\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-273230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/nullity.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/nullity-300x133.jpg 300w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/nullity-600x266.jpg 600w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/nullity-150x66.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>According to the labels, the DMCA safe harbor would be a \u201cnullity\u201d or \u201cnonsensical\u201d if there were no underlying liability to be shielded from. The provision, which requires ISPs to implement a reasonable policy to terminate repeat infringers, was created to \u201cincentiv[ize]\u201d ISPs to cooperate.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, the labels add that the jury also correctly held that Cox\u2019s actions were willful. The extensive internal discussions about the DMCA and the legal risk show Cox was fully aware of the law and its potential liability, but simply decided to give its profits priority.<\/p>\n<p>With the main briefs from both sides now filed, the Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments from Cox, the record labels, and <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/u-s-govt-asks-to-speak-on-coxs-behalf-in-supreme-court-piracy-liability-showdown\/\">possibly<\/a> the U.S. Government later this fall. A final decision on the billion-dollar verdict, which will define the responsibilities of Internet providers in the digital age, is expected next year.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u2014<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A copy of the record labels\u2019 brief, submitted yesterday to the Supreme Court, is available <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/20251015121635831_24-171-Sony-Response-Brief.pdf\">here (pdf)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>From: <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/\">TF<\/a>, for the latest news on copyright battles, piracy and more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpematico_credit\"><small>Powered by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wpematico.com\" target=\"_blank\">WPeMatico<\/a><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Supreme Court case between several major record labels and Cox Communications is a landmark legal battle. The outcome will determine how Internet providers should deal with pirating subscribers on their networks. 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