{"id":82534,"date":"2025-04-11T09:02:03","date_gmt":"2025-04-11T09:02:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=82534"},"modified":"2025-04-11T09:02:03","modified_gmt":"2025-04-11T09:02:03","slug":"cdn77-isolates-laliga-iptv-pirates-in-15-mins-allegedly-gets-blocked-anyway","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=82534","title":{"rendered":"CDN77 Isolates LaLiga IPTV Pirates in 15 mins. Allegedly Gets Blocked Anyway"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"iptv-agreement\"Having listened to LaLiga chief Javier Tebas speak about piracy for almost an hour at a conference recently<\/a>, several things become apparent.<\/p>\n

Whether one agrees or disagrees with his stance on how to tackle piracy, in particular the blocking controversy that has dogged Spain since early February, at a time of crisis this would be the man to have fighting your corner. He\u2019s passionate about his mission, knows exactly what needs to be done, and is as unmovable as he is uncompromising on how to get there.<\/p>\n

For these reasons and many more like them, what some argue is a football business problem is already developing into a potential problem for everyone. Tebas believes the financial impact of piracy on Spanish football is currently between 600 and 700 million euros and with the recently confirmed authority awarded by a local court. LaLiga currently blocks 3,000 IP addresses every weekend to reduce the damage.<\/p>\n

Empowered By the Judiciary, LaLiga Blocks in Line With the Mission<\/h2>\n

During the weekend, hunting pirates (Tebas prefers the term \u2018martians\u2019) starts at noon on Saturday and ends between eleven and midnight; rinse and repeat on Sunday. If it transpires that all 3,000 IP addresses belong to Cloudflare, LaLiga will block however many it sees fit. <\/p>\n

Tebas acknowledges that each Cloudflare IP can in theory protect 1,000 to 2,000 non-pirate IP resources. It necessarily follows that, if blocking is effective, those ordinarily neutral web resources will be rendered inaccessible along with any offending pirate sites, for as long blocking remains in place. Tebas blames Cloudflare for using these innocent resources as \u2018human shields\u2019 and at the same time points to just a handful of cases he considers to be verified, genuine complaints.<\/p>\n

Other complaints of overblocking are variously described as overblown or non-genuine, and collectively as just \u201cnoise.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cGoogle has even paid communication agencies to say that there\u2019s been a lot of noise, that there have been some barbaric outages,\u201d Tebas alleged. \u201cI\u2019m convinced that when Google Drive was cut [by Piracy Shield] in Italy, it was with Google\u2019s awareness. With real Google awareness, and I\u2019m going to tell you why it\u2019s like that.\u201d<\/p>\n

CDN77: Like Cloudflare But Smaller and Cooperative<\/h2>\n

CDN77<\/a> is a well-known CDN that specializes in live video and VOD. It may be smaller than Cloudflare but still claims to deliver 300 PB of video daily. Tebas doesn\u2019t mention the circumstances that led to its cooperation with LaLiga, but he does seem satisfied with the arrangement.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe have a company that\u2019s much smaller than Cloudflare, but it provides the same services. It\u2019s a Dutch company, it\u2019s important, but it\u2019s not. It\u2019s called CDN77 and it does the same thing [as Cloudflare] it anonymizes [users]. Well, we have an agreement with them,\u201d he explains.<\/p>\n

\u201cDuring the the game, when we detect CDN77 IP addresses, we don\u2019t block them, we notify [CDN77]. They directly remove the IP address that is sharing the illegal content, and replace it with another IP and then cut it off, that\u2019s it, it can be done technologically.\u201d<\/p>\n

LaLiga: No Large-Scale Overblocking<\/h2>\n

Since early February, fundamental disagreement has persisted over a) the scale of overblocking and b) whether LaLiga\u2019s blocking can be described as indiscriminate. <\/p>\n

To the extent that indiscriminate suggests a random, scattershot approach, LaLiga\u2019s objections do seem reasonable. LaLiga says it targets specific IP addresses used by identified IPTV services; it\u2019s well understood that other services may be present on the same IP, but if the judge who issued the order saw no problem, who can insist otherwise?<\/p>\n

In the eyes of LaLiga, the scale of the overblocking isn\u2019t significant, but the numbers do seem to lack clear definition. That being said, Tebas is very clear on what it is not.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s not true that there are millions of [blocked] users, as Cloudflare put it. If there are millions of users, and the judge himself says, you haven\u2019t proven it, and they have had the opportunity to prove it, we are the ones who have proven that it\u2019s not true. In other words, they had to prove it, because it\u2019s not true,\u201d Tebas explained.<\/p>\n

Opposing View \u2013 Overblocking is Massive<\/h2>\n

Regular updates posted to X by sysadmin @jaumepons aim to document overblocking in Spain. According to their research, the scale is enormous but given the numbers and technical issues involved, independent verification from outside the country presents challenges.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Claims on X<\/a> from within Spain<\/em>\"spain-blocking1\"<\/center><\/p>\n

From a base of almost no overblocking according to LaLiga, to the massive overblocking alleged in these reports, it\u2019s clear that both extremes can\u2019t exist at the same time. <\/p>\n

According to Cloudflare, various experts, and people whose websites become inaccessible in Spain when football airs on TV, feel that the evidence is on public display. LaLiga\u2019s position is that since evidence wasn\u2019t produced to the standard required by the court, claims of overblocking remain unproven; presumably that also extends to the IP addresses in the image below. <\/p>\n

All were reportedly blocked by LaLiga, all belong to CDN provider CDN77 whose cooperation may not have provided immunity from blocking as initially envisaged.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\"cdn77-1\"<\/center><\/p>\n

From: TF<\/a>, for the latest news on copyright battles, piracy and more.<\/p>\n

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