{"id":76218,"date":"2024-03-30T09:01:13","date_gmt":"2024-03-30T09:01:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=76218"},"modified":"2024-03-30T09:01:13","modified_gmt":"2024-03-30T09:01:13","slug":"the-new-york-times-needs-more-than-imagined-fears-to-block-ai-innovation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=76218","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The New York Times Needs More than \u2018Imagined Fears\u2019 to Block AI Innovation\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/newsprint.jpg\" alt=\"newsprint\" width=\"300\" height=\"191\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-249217\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/newsprint.jpg 832w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/newsprint-300x191.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\">Starting last year, various rightsholders have filed lawsuits against companies that develop AI models.<\/p>\n<p>The list of complainants includes record labels, book authors, visual artists, and even the New York Times. These rightsholders all object to the presumed use of their work to train AI models without proper compensation.<\/p>\n<p>The New York Times lawsuit targets <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/OpenAI#Controversies\">OpenAI and Microsoft<\/a>, who have both filed separate motions to dismiss this month. Microsoft\u2019s response included a few paragraphs equating the recent AI fears to the <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/new-york-times-microsofts-ai-tools-are-nothing-like-the-vcr-240319\/\">doom and gloom<\/a> scenarios that were painted by Hollywood when the VCR became popular in the 1980s.<\/p>\n<h2>VCR Doom and Gloom<\/h2>\n<p>The motion to dismiss cited early VCR scaremongering, including that of the late MPAA boss Jack Valenti, who warned of the potentially devastating consequences this novel technology could have on the movie industry. <\/p>\n<p>This comparison triggered a reply from The Times, which clarified that generative AI is nothing like the VCR. It\u2019s an entirely different technology with completely separate copyright concerns, the publication <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/new-york-times-microsofts-ai-tools-are-nothing-like-the-vcr-240319\/\">wrote<\/a>. At the same time, the company labeled Microsoft\u2019s other defenses, including fair use, as premature.<\/p>\n<p>Before the New York court rules on the matter, Microsoft took the opportunity to respond once more. According to the tech giant, The Times took its VCR comparison too literally. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cMicrosoft\u2019s point was not that VCRs and LLMs are the same. It was that content creators have tried before to smother the democratizing power of new technology based on little more than doom foretold. The challenges failed, yet the doom never came. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd that is why plaintiffs must offer more than imagined fears before the law will block innovation. That The Times can only think to dodge this point is telling indeed,\u201d Microsoft added. <\/p>\n<h2>\u2018No Copyright Infringements Cited\u2019<\/h2>\n<p>For the court, it is irrelevant whether the VCR comparisons make sense or not; the comparison is just lawsuit padding. What matters is whether The Times has pleaded copyright infringement and DMCA claims against Microsoft, sufficient to survive a motion to dismiss. <\/p>\n<p>The Times argued that its claims are valid; the company asked the court to move the case forward, so it can conduct discovery and further back up its claims. However, Microsoft believes the legal dispute should end here, as no concrete copyright infringements have been cited.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHaving failed to plausibly plead its claims, The Times mostly just pleads for discovery. But the defects in its Complaint are too fundamental to brush aside. The Times is not entitled to proceed on contributory infringement claims without alleging a single instance of end-user infringement of its works,\u201d Microsoft notes. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/ms-reply-nyt.jpg\" alt=\"microsoft opposition\" width=\"600\" height=\"232\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-249222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/ms-reply-nyt.jpg 1052w, https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/ms-reply-nyt-300x116.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\"><\/center><\/p>\n<h2>More Shortcomings<\/h2>\n<p>Similar shortcomings also apply to the other claims up for dismissal, including the alleged DMCA violation, which according to Microsoft lacks concrete evidence.<\/p>\n<p>As highlighted previously, The Times did reference a Gizmodo article that suggested ChatGPT\u2019s \u2018Browse with Bing\u2019 was used by people to bypass paywalls. However, Microsoft doesn\u2019t see this as concrete evidence. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is like alleging that \u2018some online articles report infringement happens on Facebook\u2019. That does not support a claim. The Times cannot save a Complaint that identifies no instance of infringement by pointing to a secondary source that identifies no instance of infringement.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, allegations that The Times\u2019 ChatGPT prompts returned passages of New York Times articles isn\u2019t sufficient either, as that\u2019s not \u201cthird-party\u201d copyright infringement. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Times is talking about its own prompts that allegedly \u201cgenerated \u2026 outputs \u2026 that \u2026 violate The Times\u2019s copyrights.\u2019 An author cannot infringe its own works,\u201d Microsoft notes. <\/p>\n<p>Microsoft would like the court to grant its motion to dismiss, while The Times is eager to move forward. It\u2019s now up to the court to decide if the case can progress, and if so, on what claims. <\/p>\n<p>Alternatively, the parties can choose to settle their disagreements outside of court but, thus far, there\u2019s no evidence to suggest that they\u2019re actively trying to resolve their disagreements.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u2014-<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A copy of Microsoft\u2019s reply memorandum in support of its partial motion to dismiss, submitted at a New York federal court, can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/images\/micro-ai-reply.pdf\">here (pdf)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>From: <a href=\"https:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/\">TF<\/a>, for the latest news on copyright battles, piracy and more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpematico_credit\"><small>Powered by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wpematico.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WPeMatico<\/a><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Starting last year, various rightsholders have filed lawsuits against companies that develop AI models. The list of complainants includes record labels, book authors, visual artists, and even the New York Times. These rightsholders all object to the presumed use of their work to train AI models without proper compensation. 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