{"id":50674,"date":"2020-09-15T09:02:21","date_gmt":"2020-09-15T09:02:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=50674"},"modified":"2020-09-15T09:02:21","modified_gmt":"2020-09-15T09:02:21","slug":"defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=50674","title":{"rendered":"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as \u2018Toxic\u2019 Community Disagrees on Way Forward"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-768x432.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium_large size-medium_large wp-post-image\" alt=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-696x392.jpg 696w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-1068x601.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-747x420.jpg 747w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-380x214.jpg 380w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward-760x428.jpg 760w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\"><\/p>\n<p><strong>The decentralized finance (defi) space is headed for an implosion unless the divided community leaders step forward with solutions. This is discernible from September 13 Sunday morning tweets by some influential players in the defi space wherein they attack each other. <\/strong><strong>Waves blockchain creator Sasha Ivanov kicked things after depicting current defi ecosystem as Ponzi 2.0 and not the much talked about finance 2.0. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF), the current leader of Sushiswap, expresses fears that yield farming food tokens are in fact propagating the decentralized finance (defi) bubble, while the Yearn Finance creator, Andre Cronje believes liquidity fragmentation to be one of the contributing factors to challenges facing defi.<\/p>\n<p>The sentiments reflect the general acknowledgement and concern about the growth as well as the fate of defi. Still, the defi community\u2014 which Cronje once <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/sushiswaps-2-million-token-airdrop-founders-face-accusations-of-making-defi-a-joke-again\/\">labelled toxic<\/a>\u2014 seems to be dominated by individuals fixated with personal agendas This was on display on when Ivanov attacked the idea of the automated market maker (AMM), which some argue to be a great solution.<\/p>\n<p>In his <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sasha35625\/status\/1305038570239950849?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet\">tweets<\/a>, Ivanov, who insists that Finance 2.0 \u201cwill still come anyway\u201d, also suggests AMM is not the solution. The Waves creator explains:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAMM is not so groundbreaking as working pool mechanics. Pools are awesome. AMM IMO not so much. No matter how high the volume is now.\u201d AMMs are entities tasked with creating price action on an exchange that would otherwise be illiquid without trading activity.<\/p>\n<p>Before the apparent critique on AMMs, an \u201coptimistic\u201d Ivanov tweeted favourably of \u201cAave, Curve, and a couple of other projects\u201d which he termed \u201creally groundbreaking.\u201d Ivanov\u2019s remarks, which omitted YFI, did not go unnoticed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-411929 size-full\" title=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/ivanov.png\" alt=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" width=\"456\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/ivanov.png 456w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/ivanov-300x180.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 456px) 100vw, 456px\"><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps in an indirect response to Invanov\u2019s comments, Cronje, who is credited with helping to build the defi space into a billion industry, tweeted a few hours later stating why AMM is needed. In his tweet, Cronje argues:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLiquidity is becoming incredibly fragmented. LPs have to choose between pairing assets. The more fragmented, the more expensive (slippage+gas). What we need now is an AMM that can scale 1..n with pooled liquidity, single asset exposure, and cheap swaps.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-411936 size-full\" title=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/cronje.png\" alt=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" width=\"483\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/cronje.png 483w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/cronje-300x295.png 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/cronje-427x420.png 427w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 483px) 100vw, 483px\"><\/p>\n<p>Still, despite the differences, both Ivanov and Cronje still share a common view that the defi space is being overrun by bad actors. In an earlier tweet, Cronje complained that the Sushiswap controversy had made \u201cdefi a joke again.\u201d This was after Chef Nomi, the anonymous creator of Sushiswap said he had returned funds that he seized in the previous week.<\/p>\n<p>The tweet by Cronje may have prompted Bankman-Fried, the current leader of Sushiswap, to post his own <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LTTG10\/status\/1305141920151121920\">thread<\/a> in which he criticizes yield farming food coins. In his thread, Bankman-Fried starts by posing questions; \u201cIs yield farming sustainable? Is it stupid? Is it revolutionary?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Bankman-Fried tries to make a case for certain coins that he claims to \u201chave obvious utility.\u201d And just like Ivanov, the Sushiswap co-founder gives his list of \u201cimportant products that people use even ignoring (yield) farming.\u201d These include Compound Finance, Aave and Balancer.<\/p>\n<p>Bankman-Fried also touts Sushiswap alongside Creamdot Finance as \u201cforks on useful products.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-411930 size-full\" title=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/food-bubble.png\" alt=\"Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as 'Toxic' Community Disagrees on Way Forward\" width=\"457\" height=\"294\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/food-bubble.png 457w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/food-bubble-300x193.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 457px) 100vw, 457px\"><\/p>\n<p>Predictably, the Sushiswap cofounder tears into YFI\u2019s value, which is he says is \u201ca weird case.\u201d He argues that \u201cright now (YFI) mostly just about farming, but it\u2019s also the king of farming, the meta-farming coin, and so it kinda makes sense that it should get a decent piece of that pie.\u201d At the time of writing, YFI was trading at $39,500.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, as influential players engaged in this battle, Twitter users have weighed into the controversial debate. Responding to Bankman-Fried\u2019s thread, user LTTG <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LTTG10\/status\/1305141920151121920\">said<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Any unregulated markets will attract bad actors that try to game the system through perceived legitimacy. Only time will tell which separates the projects that provide real value or the fake ones that only exist to scam money from the public.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Ryan Selkis, a founder at Messari, also added his voice to those worried about defi by drawing parallels with events during the 2017 initial coin offering (ICO) bubble. In a tweet he said:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cICOs boomed for a while because everyone (laughably) thought there would be a coordinating utility token for every industry. Defi is just one big pool of capital sloshing around a small group of insiders and mercenaries who will soon run out of victims to fleece.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What are your thoughts about the challenges facing Defi? Tell us what you think in the comments section below.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/defi-boom-bubble-fears-grow-as-toxic-community-disagrees-on-way-forward\/\">Defi Boom: Bubble Fears Grow as \u2018Toxic\u2019 Community Disagrees on Way Forward<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/\">Bitcoin News<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpematico_credit\"><small>Powered by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wpematico.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">WPeMatico<\/a><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The decentralized finance (defi) space is headed for an implosion unless the divided community leaders step forward with solutions. This is discernible from September 13 Sunday morning tweets by some influential players in the defi space wherein they attack each other. 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