{"id":41712,"date":"2019-12-20T09:02:24","date_gmt":"2019-12-20T09:02:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=41712"},"modified":"2019-12-20T09:02:24","modified_gmt":"2019-12-20T09:02:24","slug":"travelbybit-to-drop-bitcoin-payments-after-viral-double-spend-video","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/?p=41712","title":{"rendered":"Travelbybit to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"464\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-768x512.jpg\" alt=\"Travelbybit to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-696x464.jpg 696w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-1392x928.jpg 1392w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-1068x712.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-630x420.jpg 630w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/mmmmmdrop-190x128.jpg 190w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\"><\/p>\n<p><strong>On December 18, Bitcoinbch.com published a video explaining how easy it is to double spend <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> transactions in the wild. Not long after the film was released, the payment processor Travelbybit announced it would be removing both <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> payments for over 400 Australian merchants. Unfortunately, a few <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> proponents claimed <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> has the same issues, despite the fact the Bitcoin Cash network doesn&rsquo;t use the Replace-by-Fee (RBF) protocol.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Also read: <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/video-shows-how-easy-it-is-to-double-spend-btc-using-rbf\/\">Video Shows How Easy It Is to Double Spend BTC Using RBF<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<h2>Double Spend Video Invokes Replace-by-Fee Debate<\/h2>\n<p>Just recently, <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinbch.com\/\">Bitcoinbch.com<\/a> CEO Hayden Otto published a <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/lLkiu8zs318\">video<\/a> that shows how easy it is to <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/video-shows-how-easy-it-is-to-double-spend-btc-using-rbf\/\">double spend BTC<\/a> with a basic wallet that leverages RBF. The protocol called <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinops.org\/en\/topics\/replace-by-fee\/\">Replace-by-Fee (RBF)<\/a> is a controversial implementation that allows a user to replace a transaction with another transaction. RBF invoked a <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/articles\/the-case-for-replace-by-fee-and-the-case-against-1457383308\">debate<\/a> the day it was introduced, because bitcoin transactions are meant to be irreversible. For instance, the former Gyft CEO Vinny Lingham revealed how horrible of a system RBF was for his business in October 2018. &ldquo;We processed over 100,000 transactions with amounts from $5-2000\/transaction with no double spends,&rdquo; Lingham<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VinnyLingham\/status\/1047528052484268032\"> explained<\/a> on Twitter. &ldquo;Over $25m in sales and the first time we got a double spend attack was after RBF was introduced.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<blockquote data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">At this very moment you can go and double spend <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%24BTC&amp;src=ctag&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">$BTC<\/a> at over 200 locations across Australia, thanks to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TravelbyBit?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@TravelbyBit<\/a> powered by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/binance?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Binance<\/a>! <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/a79ELQj3j3\">https:\/\/t.co\/a79ELQj3j3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Hayden Otto (@haydenotto_) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/haydenotto_\/status\/1207317412644655104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 18, 2019<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Following the video published by Otto, <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> supporters tried to imply that <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> has the same problem and attempted to say this was a zero-confirmation issue. Some <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VNumeris\/status\/1207491479955836929\">BTC supporters<\/a> even shared a website called <a href=\"https:\/\/doublespend.cash\/stats.html\">doublespend.cash\/stats<\/a> and tried to say that the chances of a successful double spend on the <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> network in the past seven days average out at 13.5%. But the creator of the statistical website disagreed and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dagur\/status\/1207614765998247936?s=21\">said<\/a>: &ldquo;That site he links to also shows that only 1 out of 3992 (0.025%) attempts succeeded when the double spend was not broadcasted simultaneously.&rdquo; The developer added:<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;That tweet suggests [he] either doesn&rsquo;t know how to read stats or is intentionally dishonest.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-354698\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Travelbybit to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh.jpg\" alt=\"Travelbybit to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" width=\"598\" height=\"319\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-1024x546.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-768x410.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-696x371.jpg 696w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-1392x742.jpg 1392w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-1068x570.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dbcsh-788x420.jpg 788w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 598px) 100vw, 598px\"><figcaption>The creator of the website doublespend.cash replies to the alleged critique against <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Travelbybit CEO Plans to Remove <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> from Point of Sale System<\/h2>\n<p>The fact of the matter is, the Replace-by-Fee protocol and Segregated Witness (Segwit) were intentionally removed from the <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> codebase on August 1, 2017. No matter what the claim is in regard to zero-confirmation transactions, the Bitcoin Cash network does not have the RBF protocol baked into the codebase. Still, after the video went viral, Travelbybit CEO Caleb Yeoh <a href=\"https:\/\/micky.com.au\/400-aussie-merchants-to-drop-bitcoin-after-viral-exploit-video\/\">told Micky.com<\/a> that &ldquo;[Travelbybit] will be dropping both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash from the POS (Point of Sale).&rdquo; &ldquo;The truth is both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash and many other blockchains are not suitable for retail point of sale transactions &mdash; There are trade-offs between user experience vs security,&rdquo; Yeoh added.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Travelbybit Plans to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455.jpg\" alt=\"Travelbybit Plans to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" width=\"1300\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455.jpg 1300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-300x115.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-1024x394.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-768x295.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-696x268.jpg 696w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-1068x411.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/caleb2224455-1092x420.jpg 1092w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\"><\/p>\n<h2>Hayden Otto: <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> Being Prone to the Same Exploit Is Utter Nonsense<\/h2>\n<p>Speaking with news.Bitcoin.com after the video published, Bitcoinbch.com CEO Hayden Otto had a few words to say about the critics. &ldquo;Travelbybit (TBB) dropping support for <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> is no loss, as they did not widely support it to begin with,&rdquo; Otto told our newsdesk. &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> alone accounts for over 93% of Australia&rsquo;s crypto retail expenditure and all this economic activity takes place outside of the TBB system &mdash; <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> adoption in Australia is unaffected.&rdquo; Otto added:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em><strong>After being exposed for facilitating charge back through his service, despite advertising that it is impossible, the TBB CEO decided to drop <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> purely out of spite. He intentionally tried to mislead people to believe that <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> is prone to the same security exploits as <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a>, which is utter nonsense.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Travelbybit Plans to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin.jpg\" alt=\"Travelbybit Plans to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video\" width=\"1300\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cryptocabaret.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin.jpg 1300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-300x115.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-1024x394.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-768x295.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-696x268.jpg 696w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-1068x411.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/bchbitcoin-1092x420.jpg 1092w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\"><\/p>\n<p>Otto went on to say that it was &ldquo;reckless&rdquo; of Yeoh to recommend that the Lightning Network is a secure alternative for customers and merchants. &ldquo;But it&rsquo;s no surprise, as they also run their own &lsquo;Lightning Bank&rsquo; custodial services through the Wallet of Satoshi &mdash; LN is even more stupid than Bitcoin Core for the retailer,&rdquo; Otto remarked. &ldquo;You would need to buy 1,180 coffees with LN before you even match the payment efficiency of Bitcoin Cash buying just a single coffee (not including LN routing fees). Further, you would also need to lock $5,310 into the coffee channel for the effort.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>The Bitcoinbch.com CEO said that TBB has had &ldquo;beef with <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> for a long time&rdquo; and that merchants had to request <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> support directly rather than <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> being enabled by default. &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> did 93% of all cryptocurrency physical retail sales in Australia,&rdquo; Otto underlined during the conversation. Otto also mentioned that TBB didn&rsquo;t threaten to disable <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BSV\" target=\"_blank\">BSV<\/a> which shares similar confirmation times. &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t see much future for TBB given the rate of <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> growth in Australia,&rdquo; Otto added.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What do you think about Travelbybit removing <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BTC\" target=\"_blank\">BTC<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/markets.bitcoin.com\/crypto\/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH<\/a> from 400 merchants in Australia? Let us know what you think about this subject in the comments section below.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Image credits: Shutterstock, Twitter, <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinbch.com\/blog\/merchants-urged-to-switch-to-bitcoin-cash.html\">Bitcoinbch.com<\/a>, Travelbybit, Wiki Commons, Fair Use, and Pixabay. <\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Did you know you can verify any unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with our <a href=\"https:\/\/explorer.bitcoin.com\/bch\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bitcoin Block Explorer tool<\/a>? Simply complete a Bitcoin address search to view it on the blockchain. Plus, visit our <a href=\"https:\/\/charts.bitcoin.com\/bch\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bitcoin Charts<\/a> to see what&rsquo;s happening in the industry.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/travelbybit-to-drop-bitcoin-payments-after-viral-double-spend-video\/\">Travelbybit to Drop Bitcoin Payments After Viral Double Spend Video<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoin.com\/\">Bitcoin News<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><ins class=\"adbladeads\" data-cid=\"24663-3514371590\" data-host=\"web.adblade.com\" data-tag-type=\"4\" style=\"display:none\"><\/ins><br \/>\n<script async src=\"http:\/\/web.adblade.com\/js\/ads\/async\/show.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On December 18, Bitcoinbch.com published a video explaining how easy it is to double spend BTC transactions in the wild. Not long after the film was released, the payment processor Travelbybit announced it would be removing both BTC and BCH payments for over 400 Australian merchants. 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